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that's about 40% of the $4 trillion deficit goal that we have. that's the same thing that simpson-bowles had, 40% revenue. so the only way you can reach that, incidentally, is to allow the rates to go up. just this idea of we're going to take a look at the tax code, change some credits and deductions, you can't come up with enough money. >> so any deal will have to include at least some hike in the tax rate. >> i don't think there's any other way to approach it. that's why the president has taken this position. if we're going to make sure, for example, that we spare families making $250,000 a year or less from any income tax increase, then this idea that we're going to go into the tax code and find $1.6 trillion over ten years becomes almost impossible. we need to protect those middle income families. >> you said today that congress should deal with the fiscal cliff crisis now, but tackle entitlements, the entitlement questions, later. yesterday, senator lamar alexander said the only thing the president has to do to get an agreement from republic
that's about 40% of the $4 trillion deficit goal that we have. that's the same thing that simpson-bowles had, 40% revenue. so the only way you can reach that, incidentally, is to allow the rates to go up. just this idea of we're going to take a look at the tax code, change some credits and deductions, you can't come up with enough money. >> so any deal will have to include at least some hike in the tax rate. >> i don't think there's any other way to approach it. that's why the...
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he said that's going to put a drag on the economy but we have to do something about the deficit. i don't really understand reasonings. i think he needs to go back to economic then i would argue the deficit gets worse because the revenues don't come in because the unemployment rate goes up. >> you're absolutely right. france instituted a 75% marginal tax great early last night grease going we've got to make sure we're getting gross right if we want to face the deficit. you go pro row tax reform you broaden out debate like an 82-year-o 82-year-old. >> you think, however, reading from your notes and looking at the stock market, particularly retail stocks, you believe that taxes are going up. you believe that's the stock market message, it meal why then. the blebs saying it when you look at the retailing names, the market tells you they think all the middle class market will get extended. you see order? core it's not just this consumption that's going to you're going to gets will live dent, small cap stocks are underperforming. we're going to have a hard cap gains tax, a high are def
he said that's going to put a drag on the economy but we have to do something about the deficit. i don't really understand reasonings. i think he needs to go back to economic then i would argue the deficit gets worse because the revenues don't come in because the unemployment rate goes up. >> you're absolutely right. france instituted a 75% marginal tax great early last night grease going we've got to make sure we're getting gross right if we want to face the deficit. you go pro row tax...
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we want deficit reduction that is big, bold, but balanced. as long as more republicans can agree with us on that we're willing to compromise with them and meet them halfway. >> sir, real quickly while i have you, it was announced in the last hour that the president is going to be hosting mitt romney for a private luncheon at the white house tomorrow. your reaction to that in light of that campaign finance call to supporters of mitt romney where he disbasically doubled down on the 47% remark? >> i think it's important for the president to reach out to as many people as possible. i didn't agree with mitt romney on much but some ideas he had were intriguing. i'm glad the president is reaching out to him and unifying america. we all need to stand behind the middle class and see where we can agree and act on that agreement. >> steve israel, great to have you on with us this morning. >> thanks. >> we have more heavy hitters coming up on the fiscal cliff on msnbc throughout the next day. next hour on "now" with alex wagner, she'll speak with senator
we want deficit reduction that is big, bold, but balanced. as long as more republicans can agree with us on that we're willing to compromise with them and meet them halfway. >> sir, real quickly while i have you, it was announced in the last hour that the president is going to be hosting mitt romney for a private luncheon at the white house tomorrow. your reaction to that in light of that campaign finance call to supporters of mitt romney where he disbasically doubled down on the 47%...
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naturally is part of the deficit-reduction discussions. the group supporting the attack site include state highway officials, road builders, trucking associations, the simpson-bowles planner it proposed raising the tax as well. there's another tax in the fiscal cliff and possible gas tax is not the only tax to hit the bottom line. deal or no deal, hold on to your wallet. here with more, the senior tax policy analyst for the heritage foundation. always nice to have you on the show. let's talk about the bottom line for so many people out there, it will hit so many folks, 90% of households, almost impossible to escape and create that. >> everyone's taxes will go up on january 1st. important to point out we're talking about today which is raising taxes. that is off point. the fiscal cliff is here because we're spending tooomuch. we are the precedents of the debt crisis because we're spending too much. how we can raise taxes and talk about raising the gas tax, nothing to do with cutting spending which is where we should be directing our attenti
naturally is part of the deficit-reduction discussions. the group supporting the attack site include state highway officials, road builders, trucking associations, the simpson-bowles planner it proposed raising the tax as well. there's another tax in the fiscal cliff and possible gas tax is not the only tax to hit the bottom line. deal or no deal, hold on to your wallet. here with more, the senior tax policy analyst for the heritage foundation. always nice to have you on the show. let's talk...
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>> well, they came over a week ago and can't remember the bush era because they grew the deficits. another thing was saying capitoe was for the patriot act and that upset the hard core conservatives. every republican senator voted for the patriot act.
>> well, they came over a week ago and can't remember the bush era because they grew the deficits. another thing was saying capitoe was for the patriot act and that upset the hard core conservatives. every republican senator voted for the patriot act.
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he forecasted a $1.3 trillion deficit. th so that means, if i can figure this out, $2.5 trillion to work with. $1.3 trillion in deficit. $901 billion left for next year. our national deficit iss big pl $16 trillion. everybody knows that. the president's bignt plans, he just wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes.t here is how he wants to get there. first he wants to raise 849 billion. by allowing the bush tax cuts -y there they go. taking him away.f the very first of december of this year. incom incomes of more than $250,000, 849 billion includes 206 billion in higher taxes on dividends. $123 billion on limiting i'm itemized deductions.pital higher taxes on capital gains. then they want to raise another$ $534 billion over 10 years.ten b excuse me,y over two years, by using tax rates.e mortgage payments and -- oh, by the way, that might have ane evr impact on the housing industryby and that could get everybody excited. we have something good going, so mones squash that. the rest would come from raising taxes on commodity traders,
he forecasted a $1.3 trillion deficit. th so that means, if i can figure this out, $2.5 trillion to work with. $1.3 trillion in deficit. $901 billion left for next year. our national deficit iss big pl $16 trillion. everybody knows that. the president's bignt plans, he just wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes.t here is how he wants to get there. first he wants to raise 849 billion. by allowing the bush tax cuts -y there they go. taking him away.f the very first of december of this year. incom...
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[inaudible] with more trillion dollar deficits forecast in years to come. despite the extraordinary steps to do with a great recession, deficit as a share of the economy has actually decreased every year for the last three years. 10% of gdp in 2009, 7% gdp today. the source is not the democratic national committee, but "investor's business daily." they said believe that or not, the federal deficits smaller over the past three years and it hasn't any stretch since demobilization after world war ii. outside of the post-world war ii era, the on than the up deficit has fallen faster is when the economy we left in 1937, during the great depression into -- [inaudible] u.s. district offers, testing the speed limit of the fiscal consolidation does and backfire. >> i really go back to simpson-bowles. i think they had it right put. repeat, everything on the table. not only taxes, but spending cuts and entitlement reform. let me speak about each of them. first when it comes to revenue, so many people in the business community and outside have talked about simpson-bowl
[inaudible] with more trillion dollar deficits forecast in years to come. despite the extraordinary steps to do with a great recession, deficit as a share of the economy has actually decreased every year for the last three years. 10% of gdp in 2009, 7% gdp today. the source is not the democratic national committee, but "investor's business daily." they said believe that or not, the federal deficits smaller over the past three years and it hasn't any stretch since demobilization after...
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most impressive things is i don't really think the american people really care that much about the deficit. they certainly didn't vote as if they did. when it comes to these entitlement programs, no matter what your party is and whether you agree with paul ryan or not, he did put bold initiatives to try to bring these costs down and people rejected it. i thk we took a step back in the last election in terms of fixing the programs. >> having said that, a lot of people say i paid into social security and i deserve that. i don't see how medicaid can hold out. i think that's going to collapse a lot sooner than any economist we be forecast. >> there's a good reason why i agree with you. that may be the fastest entitlement program. here is the reason why. not because it's bankrupting washington, because they have been for 15 years. the reason is because it's bankrupting the state. states pay about 40% of the cost and every governor that i talk to, they say that we can't afford this anymore. it is becoming the top of our budget. i agree with you. that could be the program that we fix first. charl
most impressive things is i don't really think the american people really care that much about the deficit. they certainly didn't vote as if they did. when it comes to these entitlement programs, no matter what your party is and whether you agree with paul ryan or not, he did put bold initiatives to try to bring these costs down and people rejected it. i thk we took a step back in the last election in terms of fixing the programs. >> having said that, a lot of people say i paid into...
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now we're facing debt and deficit. on the question of labour supply and investment of savings, it is hard to know what the rates would have been. but in general, tax rates to increase porges station in the labour market, particularly for women. there is every -- very strong evidence that lower tax rates make people save more prepared host: did it create jobs? guest: the tax policy itself does not create jobs. employers create jobs. there was a recession and at the bush administration in the beginning and one at the end. that continued into the obama administration. jobs come and go. at the moment, we have a significant job deficit. but i think if we look not just at the bush tax cuts in isolation, but the tax policy over the history of the united states and in other countries, we see the lower chart -- lower tax rates do contribute to getting jobs. host: ethan pollack, as did the bush tax cuts work? guest: they did work in the sense that they cost a lot of money and reduced surpluses. 80% of the debt added during the t
now we're facing debt and deficit. on the question of labour supply and investment of savings, it is hard to know what the rates would have been. but in general, tax rates to increase porges station in the labour market, particularly for women. there is every -- very strong evidence that lower tax rates make people save more prepared host: did it create jobs? guest: the tax policy itself does not create jobs. employers create jobs. there was a recession and at the bush administration in the...
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we're going to have about $.5 trillion in deficits in 2013. is that a crisis? for god's sake, we're finally doing something to address our debt and deficits. that should be great news. i'll tell you why gold might be down today. why is the market rallying when gold, oil, and copper are down? the only tentity borrowing all this money is the government. that's why gold is going down. guess what? don't worry about it. they're going to punt on this like they have every other time. >> are you as pessimistic? are they going to punt? what do you do? >> in the short-term, you have to be careful. these are unknowable things. it's a very fluid situation, as you identified. somebody gives us some happy talk. this market goes straight up. i think gold is giving perhaps a false signal there won't be qe-4. i believe there will be. it's just a matter of time. this is going to take time to implement. we're not going to put all these changes in place january 1. there's no grand bargain out there that's going to cover all these things at once. it's going to be to have phased in.
we're going to have about $.5 trillion in deficits in 2013. is that a crisis? for god's sake, we're finally doing something to address our debt and deficits. that should be great news. i'll tell you why gold might be down today. why is the market rallying when gold, oil, and copper are down? the only tentity borrowing all this money is the government. that's why gold is going down. guess what? don't worry about it. they're going to punt on this like they have every other time. >> are you...
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we have known we have to deal with it, it is very unlikely we will come to terms with a debt and deficit problem in a recession. we have big near-term problems and don't solve the long-term problems. gerri: 50,000 for every american taxpayer. it is pretty frightening. what would you like to hear from the president? he has made it clear it is my way or the highway. >> what he has to press s urgency to get this done and lay out a plan. he is the president of the united states. if we're going to talk about big bargains in solving the debt problem, all we have heard is the tax hikes. what arehey spending cuts would actually propose? that is something american people have to hea gerri: i want to hear about entitlement spending. please come back. have a great thanksgiving. the fiscal cliff mess is going take a bite out of your bottom line when a slew of higher taxes. those lucky enough to get a year-end bonus, now maybe the time to ask your employer to cut fat check. rich edson joins us from washington. >> the law says taxes are going up. trying to avert the full tax hike so we really don't kn
we have known we have to deal with it, it is very unlikely we will come to terms with a debt and deficit problem in a recession. we have big near-term problems and don't solve the long-term problems. gerri: 50,000 for every american taxpayer. it is pretty frightening. what would you like to hear from the president? he has made it clear it is my way or the highway. >> what he has to press s urgency to get this done and lay out a plan. he is the president of the united states. if we're...
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they're gathering in brussels to try to hammer out a deal on the greek deficit. prime minister says they're cle. politicians are considering a debt forgiveness program but could see talso reaching agreement on a framework for the planned eurozone banking union. speaking to the ft, the eu internal markets commissioner said ministers must meet a december deadline in order to placate financial markets. and this as in spain voters in cat take loan i can't giving a victory to the separatist party, but the region's president lost ground. so what does it mean for the push for independence and the deficit reduction plans? julia is in barcelona for us. what does it all mean? >> it's being seen as broadly positive because it weekens his push for independence in the region right now. but the overriding message is that two thirds of the people that voted here voted for pro nationalist or separationist parties here. and this is a sentiment that's been growing over a number of years. and the president has to try to align himselves with other parties bearing two key facts, wher
they're gathering in brussels to try to hammer out a deal on the greek deficit. prime minister says they're cle. politicians are considering a debt forgiveness program but could see talso reaching agreement on a framework for the planned eurozone banking union. speaking to the ft, the eu internal markets commissioner said ministers must meet a december deadline in order to placate financial markets. and this as in spain voters in cat take loan i can't giving a victory to the separatist party,...
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without adding a dime to the deficit, by the way. in fact, if done right, tax reform will increase revenues by spurring growth, job creation and therefore bigger tax receipts. tax reform is both a fiscal and competitive necessity for our country. it has been more than 25 years since we substantially reformed the tax code. twice as long, about 50 years since we did a bottom-up review of our international tax laws. the world has changed a lot in that time period and yet america has not kept up. the underlying assumptions in our tax code are frankly out of step with the complexities of today's global economy. this is especially evident in our corporate tax code. on the domestic side of our corporate tax code, the u.s. has become the highest tax rate country among all the developed countries in the world. so canada just lowered their rate from 16.5% to 15%. our rate is 39.2% when you combine the state and federal burden. federal burden 35%. state burden closer to 5%, 6%. so right now, the average among all the developed countries in the
without adding a dime to the deficit, by the way. in fact, if done right, tax reform will increase revenues by spurring growth, job creation and therefore bigger tax receipts. tax reform is both a fiscal and competitive necessity for our country. it has been more than 25 years since we substantially reformed the tax code. twice as long, about 50 years since we did a bottom-up review of our international tax laws. the world has changed a lot in that time period and yet america has not kept up....
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the deficit is to get people back to work. right now, the price of money is cheap. you can almost get it for free. we should be investing in more economic development. >> so should this be part of the package? >> absolutely. what we need to do is -- i want to back up a bit. we're not raising taxes. the bush tax cuts were designed to expire. so we're saying let them expire. that's how they were designed. but not for the people under $250,000. you're not going to touch medicare unless you bargain on the price of drugs. don't damage the planned participants. but put money back into rebuilding the infrastructure of america. put people back to work. the jobs that will be created will lower the deficit instead of trying to beat up on poor people. >> the art of the deal, many people think the art of the deal has left washington and that this is going to be more stalemate. are you confident that democrats in red states will come around and hold the line and not worry about 2014? >> i think one of the things to look at is how much of t
the deficit is to get people back to work. right now, the price of money is cheap. you can almost get it for free. we should be investing in more economic development. >> so should this be part of the package? >> absolutely. what we need to do is -- i want to back up a bit. we're not raising taxes. the bush tax cuts were designed to expire. so we're saying let them expire. that's how they were designed. but not for the people under $250,000. you're not going to touch medicare unless...
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social security didn't cause the deficit. we don't need to cut social security to solve the problem. >> congressman defazio and a few others say let's go over the cliff if it means touching social security. what do you say? >> we should avoid going over the cliff, and the keys to the car are in the republicans' hands with respect to this tax issue. with respect to social security, i agree with what the president has said and what peter defazio said. social security is not part of the deficit and debt problem. we're not going to raid social security in order to balance other parts of the budget. as the president has said, you can deal with social security and try to strengthien it on yor own terms. with respect to health care, what we've said is we opposed the republican approach, which is simply to transfer rising health care costs onto the backs of seniors. what we should do and can do is build on the affordable care act where we found savings within the health care system by changes the incentive structures, by modernizing
social security didn't cause the deficit. we don't need to cut social security to solve the problem. >> congressman defazio and a few others say let's go over the cliff if it means touching social security. what do you say? >> we should avoid going over the cliff, and the keys to the car are in the republicans' hands with respect to this tax issue. with respect to social security, i agree with what the president has said and what peter defazio said. social security is not part of...
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>> what we need to put on the table in short-term is actual deficit reduction. we can do that through mandatory spending cuts in other areas. we can do it through the tax revenue that the president has called for. i think for instance, speaker of the house decided today to call the measure passed by the bipartisan senate to protect all families making $250,000 or less from any income tax increase december 31st, that would put enough revenue on the front end of this conversation to move us toward a solution. >> but so far i hear from you, in the short-term, no entitlements are on the table. >> only the medicare part of it, i want to be very careful. this means so much and we saw what a mess was made of it by paul ryan's budget, where the actual future of medicare was in doubt with his premium support plan. we don't want to go near that. we want to make sure that medicare, at the end of the day, is a program that is solvent, and we can count on it for generations 20 come. >> so if i'm a republican lawmaker watching this interview i'm saying, okay, he basically has
>> what we need to put on the table in short-term is actual deficit reduction. we can do that through mandatory spending cuts in other areas. we can do it through the tax revenue that the president has called for. i think for instance, speaker of the house decided today to call the measure passed by the bipartisan senate to protect all families making $250,000 or less from any income tax increase december 31st, that would put enough revenue on the front end of this conversation to move us...
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that's the real deficit that we need to worry about right now. for example jeffrey is part of this group. going around talking about cutting social safety net. his predecessor from the 20s and 40s owen young talked publicly about economic equality. he actually talked about how a man could not be free unless his wages were good. unless he was secure in his future and secured his retirement. it is a very different tune. >> eliot: let's make an important point. would the gold blankfein's of the world acknowledge there was some disparities, the ratio of ceo to comp that was crazy and they said we're going to pare that back. >> the compensation is out of whack. we got bailed out. we haven't been criminally prosecuted. the stock market has doubled. stock market has doubled under the obama administration. who we don't like. who we fought valiantly to try to defeat. they would have a lot more credibility if they said that. again, i made the argument that you know whatever it is, the business of the american people, you know used to be general motors. it
that's the real deficit that we need to worry about right now. for example jeffrey is part of this group. going around talking about cutting social safety net. his predecessor from the 20s and 40s owen young talked publicly about economic equality. he actually talked about how a man could not be free unless his wages were good. unless he was secure in his future and secured his retirement. it is a very different tune. >> eliot: let's make an important point. would the gold blankfein's of...
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but state and local governments are also dealing with massive deficits. each state has a slightly different story, but across the country, there is a common theme. in many state houses, expenditures are outpacing income, and public pension obligations are drastically underfunded. as we reported in december 2010, some believe a day of reckoning is at hand for many states that could require another big bailout package. >> the most alarming thing about the state issue is the level of complacency. >> meredith whitney is one of the most respected financial analysts on wall street. she made her reputation by warning that the big banks were in big trouble long before the 2008 collapse. now she's warning about a financial meltdown in state and local governments. >> it has tentacles as wide as anything i've seen. i think, next to housing, this is the single most important issue in the united states and certainly the largest threat to the u.s. economy. >> why aren't people paying attention? >> 'cause they don't pay attention until they have to. >> whitney says it's
but state and local governments are also dealing with massive deficits. each state has a slightly different story, but across the country, there is a common theme. in many state houses, expenditures are outpacing income, and public pension obligations are drastically underfunded. as we reported in december 2010, some believe a day of reckoning is at hand for many states that could require another big bailout package. >> the most alarming thing about the state issue is the level of...
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our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets our long-term deficit under control in a way that is fair and balanced. that kind of agreement would be good for our businesses, it would be good for our economy, it would be good for our children's future. and i believe that both parties can agree on a framework that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. but -- the place where we already have in theory at least complete agreement, right now, is on middle-class taxes. and as i've said before, we have two choices. if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. starting january 1st, every family in america will see their taxes go up. a typical middle-class family of four, would see its income taxes go up by $2200. that's $2200 out of people's pockets. that means less money for buying groceries, less money for filling prescriptions, less money for buying diapers. it means a tougher choice between paying the rent and paying tuition and middle-class families just can't afford
our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets our long-term deficit under control in a way that is fair and balanced. that kind of agreement would be good for our businesses, it would be good for our economy, it would be good for our children's future. and i believe that both parties can agree on a framework that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. but -- the place where we already have in theory at least complete agreement, right now, is on...
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what we are telling washington, you are running a deficit for the fourth year in a row and yet you can borrow money almost for nothing. so why don't you just wait another year or two years. who wants to take the fall? who wants to take the political heat if you can borrow money for five years, which is what they are doing now. neil: we are building another debt bubble? >> yes, we are doing so. >> i don't know what you call it. we've never been there before, we've never had a central bank. we've never had anything like th. >> you don't think it can walk past the graveyard mh longer? >> i don't think so. i don't think we can whistle the tune very much longer. >> okay. neil: if you had a lead suit you would buy it. [laughter] neil: david, thank you so much. the president is now speaking out. that coming up next before copd... i took my son fishing every year. we had a great spot, not easy to find, but worth it. but with copd making it hard to breathe, i thought those days might be over. so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it helps significantly improve my lung function starting within five
what we are telling washington, you are running a deficit for the fourth year in a row and yet you can borrow money almost for nothing. so why don't you just wait another year or two years. who wants to take the fall? who wants to take the political heat if you can borrow money for five years, which is what they are doing now. neil: we are building another debt bubble? >> yes, we are doing so. >> i don't know what you call it. we've never been there before, we've never had a central...
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social security did not cut a penney of the debt or deficit. we don't need to cut it which is what a lot of the is executives want. you know, medicare has problems. we should deal with those. we should start negotiating drug price. that save 25s billion a year. they don't want to go there. the pharmaceutical doesn't want to go there. there are places to save money and make it whole but they're not the cause of the debt and debt we're dealing with. extraordinarily low taxes. for ten, 12 years we've been cutting taxes to create jobs. my question is where are the jobs. hay didn't come from the tax cuts. >> let me read something. this is part of the article that quoted your comments that says perhaps it's better to go over the cliff. it says with bad taste of budgets lingering in their mouths, liberals have a particular reason to be concerned. he struck a deal with republicans to extend the bush era tax cuts iffer more than two years app last year's agreement to raise the debt ceiling, no new revenues, angering them again. is this having to do with
social security did not cut a penney of the debt or deficit. we don't need to cut it which is what a lot of the is executives want. you know, medicare has problems. we should deal with those. we should start negotiating drug price. that save 25s billion a year. they don't want to go there. the pharmaceutical doesn't want to go there. there are places to save money and make it whole but they're not the cause of the debt and debt we're dealing with. extraordinarily low taxes. for ten, 12 years...
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and that's made it impossible to reach a deficit reduction deal, until now. "the new york times" has an article in which republican after republican after republican goes on the record by name dismissing his pledge and his power. peter king says a pledge is good at the time you sign it. in 1941 i would have voted to declare war on japan. but each congress is a new congress and you can't have a rule that you're never going to raise or lower taxes. i don't want to rule anything out. senator of georgia said, i'm frankly not concerned about the norquist pledge. senator john mccain said fewer and fewer people are signing this "pledge." it's actually a pledge, but any way. senator coburn called it "a tortured vision of tax purity." and it did you want end there in that article. bill crystal said this. >> let's have a serious debate. don't scream and yell when one person says, it won't kill the country if we raise taxes on millionaires. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer. >> a calmist at the national review wrote, as a matter of political st
and that's made it impossible to reach a deficit reduction deal, until now. "the new york times" has an article in which republican after republican after republican goes on the record by name dismissing his pledge and his power. peter king says a pledge is good at the time you sign it. in 1941 i would have voted to declare war on japan. but each congress is a new congress and you can't have a rule that you're never going to raise or lower taxes. i don't want to rule anything out....
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we hear from people cut the deficit, expand medicare. we get a very inconsistent set of messages from them. no, i don't feel guilty at all, and i don't feel badly. i think -- i find there's a great commitment to solving the problem, but it gets to the specifics. i was in city hall in boston 44 years ago complaining about people who wanted a swimming pool in a neighborhood and they complaining because the dump trucks were coming in and out digging out the swimming pool and it was bothering them, and i complained to an old security council. he said, hey, kid, ain't you heard the muse? everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die. i think that's what i get from too many of constituents. they want us to cut the deficit, but don't raise my taxes and don't cut this and don't cut that and expand this and expand that. we do our best, and i'm not troubled by our inability to do what some of the them want us to do, which is impossible. >> i'm a little troubled sometimes by the thoughtlessness of some people who are quick to criticize a
we hear from people cut the deficit, expand medicare. we get a very inconsistent set of messages from them. no, i don't feel guilty at all, and i don't feel badly. i think -- i find there's a great commitment to solving the problem, but it gets to the specifics. i was in city hall in boston 44 years ago complaining about people who wanted a swimming pool in a neighborhood and they complaining because the dump trucks were coming in and out digging out the swimming pool and it was bothering them,...
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it's all about the deficit. he's not interested in people's suffering. he's interested in the deficit. that's where his focus is. >> that's exactly right. and he's not interested in the argument that perhaps for a stronger economy we need to care about the middle class and if we keep chopping them off at the knees, there's not going to be anybody to buy the products from the companies they're investing in. >> ari, we know the president when he was in the midst of that negotiation of a grand bargain with speaker boehner, he contemplated the prospect of raising the age at which it would trigger entitlements, particularly for social security. do you think this time around he'll do the same or do you think progressives will hold him to account on that and say no, no way? >> i'm concerned about it, and i think the problem is the red lines on the left side of this debate are not as clear as the ones on the right. you know, everyone spent a lot of time worrying about whether grover norquist is happy. but the fact of the political ecology in washington is there
it's all about the deficit. he's not interested in people's suffering. he's interested in the deficit. that's where his focus is. >> that's exactly right. and he's not interested in the argument that perhaps for a stronger economy we need to care about the middle class and if we keep chopping them off at the knees, there's not going to be anybody to buy the products from the companies they're investing in. >> ari, we know the president when he was in the midst of that negotiation of...
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how is he going to close the other part of that deficit? you know, his proposal right now, the most he can say would raise would be about $68 billion when our deficit last year was $90 billion. what is the president's plan for closing the additional additional $1 trillion worth of deficit? i think that's incumbent on the president to put forward his plan. >> from your standpoint alone, there's no way you see fit in the coming 35 days that you would break that pledge with glove norquist. >> well, thomas, let's use a couple numbers here. even with this measly economic growth we've seen the last three years, revenue at the federal government has increased $344 billion per year. if we just return to a normal economy that returns about 18.5%, that would increase revenue an additional over $400 billion per year, that's $750 billion of revenue per year through economic growth. and the president, his proposal would raise 1/10 of that but would put at risk the economic growth and that $750 billion. so -- >> sir, with all due respect, though -- >> co
how is he going to close the other part of that deficit? you know, his proposal right now, the most he can say would raise would be about $68 billion when our deficit last year was $90 billion. what is the president's plan for closing the additional additional $1 trillion worth of deficit? i think that's incumbent on the president to put forward his plan. >> from your standpoint alone, there's no way you see fit in the coming 35 days that you would break that pledge with glove norquist....
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one is deficit is the biggest problem. here we are with the cliff, the curve, whatever you want to call it and what do we find out? even republicans are warning they don't want to go over the cliff because guess what? just cutting the deficit without any regard to the rest of our priorities is a bad idea. it happens to be the heart of republican economic policy and the other thing about never raising taxes, guess what? we don't have the gdp to seniors ratio than we did 20 years ago, so if we're going to be serious about an ageing population, it means you can't stick to these fantasies. >> i remember two years ago on the show, introducing him to the audience and explaining he's the most powerful republican in government and i had to do this long thing on who he is. and now, here he is in the center of this debate. let's listen to what the republicans are up against in the negotiations with the white house. jay carney indicated today what the president's stance is on income tax rates. >> i would say also that the president h
one is deficit is the biggest problem. here we are with the cliff, the curve, whatever you want to call it and what do we find out? even republicans are warning they don't want to go over the cliff because guess what? just cutting the deficit without any regard to the rest of our priorities is a bad idea. it happens to be the heart of republican economic policy and the other thing about never raising taxes, guess what? we don't have the gdp to seniors ratio than we did 20 years ago, so if we're...
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it doesn't make a lot of sense to get rid of a deficit reduction program, as part of a deficit reduction deal. the white house already rejected boehner's idea. obama care will not be part of debt negotiations. boehner is up to something here, don't you think? something else, that is. if you watch john boehner closely over the last two weeks, you can see him laying the ground work for the latest ploy. he called obama care the law of the land, but also tried to link it to obama care and the budget. >> you had said, next year, that you would repeal the health care vote. that's still your mission? >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected. obama care is the law of the land. i think there are parts of the health care law that are going to be very difficult to implement. and very expensive. and at a time where we're trying to find a way to create a path toward a balanced budget, everything has to be on the table. >> but you won't be spending the time next year, trying to repeal obama care? >> there are certainly may be parts of it that we b
it doesn't make a lot of sense to get rid of a deficit reduction program, as part of a deficit reduction deal. the white house already rejected boehner's idea. obama care will not be part of debt negotiations. boehner is up to something here, don't you think? something else, that is. if you watch john boehner closely over the last two weeks, you can see him laying the ground work for the latest ploy. he called obama care the law of the land, but also tried to link it to obama care and the...
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the majority of the american people want deficits and jobs are going head to head which they are, if you're cutting spending an raising taxes particularly on the people who spend their money in the economy immediately. the american people want jobs two to one. and so this is going to be the real challenge for us to sort of navigate this obstacle course and get squarely back on the issue of jobs to make sure that we're actually spending more in the short term and, you know, if you read the tea leaves with bernanke he's saying what he doesn't want is any immediate austerity that includes spending cuts as well as just tax increases. >> ben, do you agree with that sort of view, as ben bernanke as a secret liberal? >> i mean -- >> he's trying to fix the economy. >> i don't think there's any disagreement, nobody who's pro cliff, the framing of it and the whole idea was that this was something so horrific they would be forced to negotiate in good faith and reach a deal before it. i do think -- you're right. it does cast into relief the pretty broad consensus that immediate austerity is not
the majority of the american people want deficits and jobs are going head to head which they are, if you're cutting spending an raising taxes particularly on the people who spend their money in the economy immediately. the american people want jobs two to one. and so this is going to be the real challenge for us to sort of navigate this obstacle course and get squarely back on the issue of jobs to make sure that we're actually spending more in the short term and, you know, if you read the tea...
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raging deficits, not enough revenues and we needed to cut some spending, too. we needed to make sure that people got their unemployment benefits. tip o'neill realized that he was speaker of the house. not speaker of the democrats. and he had that magic. the magic to him was 218 votes. and that's what i wish john boehner would do. because if he took a page out of tip o'neill's book, we'll be off this fiscal cliff and i compliment congressman cole for his courage in saying, you know, the president's given us 98%, essentially, of what we want. let's take it and we'll argue over the millionaires and the billionaires later. >> you know, you're probably one of the really key leading progressives in the united states senate. i've watched your heroic campaigns every six years. i'm always in wander of your ability to stick to principles and win big in the biggest state. how is this going over, the view you're taking now, which we're all in this together to some extent? it has to be a 60/40, something like that, deal. how is that going over with your colleagues in the se
raging deficits, not enough revenues and we needed to cut some spending, too. we needed to make sure that people got their unemployment benefits. tip o'neill realized that he was speaker of the house. not speaker of the democrats. and he had that magic. the magic to him was 218 votes. and that's what i wish john boehner would do. because if he took a page out of tip o'neill's book, we'll be off this fiscal cliff and i compliment congressman cole for his courage in saying, you know, the...
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budget deficit was $200 billion. now it's a trillion. how can you say nothing has changed? he acknowledged things have changed, but he's trying to stick to his principles so when i talked to him about his relevance and whether he was like frosty the snowman and feeding away from us before our eyes with each sound bite like the ones we've been seeing on your show, he said i'm for lower taxes that gives me job security. people will always think their taxes are too high. but we saw today, andrea, is a real operator. you've covered him for years. he has a $7 million operation. a full-time staff. they spend a lot of money in campaigns. he wants to stay a player. and he wants these members to listen to him and to do that, he has to have this opening. so what he's saying is congruent with our reporting which is that there's more going on behind the scenes than there is in the camera and i can clearly see a way for there to be a deal by as the president said today, by christmas, andrea as you know, december 23rd what they think of as the real deadline up there and i see signs that
budget deficit was $200 billion. now it's a trillion. how can you say nothing has changed? he acknowledged things have changed, but he's trying to stick to his principles so when i talked to him about his relevance and whether he was like frosty the snowman and feeding away from us before our eyes with each sound bite like the ones we've been seeing on your show, he said i'm for lower taxes that gives me job security. people will always think their taxes are too high. but we saw today, andrea,...
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that is not the federal budget deficit you're looking at. the powerball jackpot reaches $425 million. the latest on the big drawing just ahead. jenna: now we turn to the latest on the new health care law. the supreme court ordering the fourth circuit court of appeals to take a second look at liberty university's challenge of the health care law. the christian school believes americans should not be required to purchase health insurance and employers should not be forced to provide it if there are religious objections to certain provisions like birth control that are part of the health care they're providing. the move could open the door for president obama's health care law to be backed before the supreme court late next year. david rifkin is a constitutional law attorney and former white house counsel under presidents reagan and george h.w. bush. nice to have you with us today. >> good to be with you. jenna: how strong is liberty's case here? >> well, first of all it is entirely appropriate and expected the case would go forward give the fa
that is not the federal budget deficit you're looking at. the powerball jackpot reaches $425 million. the latest on the big drawing just ahead. jenna: now we turn to the latest on the new health care law. the supreme court ordering the fourth circuit court of appeals to take a second look at liberty university's challenge of the health care law. the christian school believes americans should not be required to purchase health insurance and employers should not be forced to provide it if there...
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if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. >> let your member of congress know. send that message said the president. the american people did. so many american people did that congressional websites and phone lines crashed after the president's speech. house phone circuits were so overwhelmed that an alert went out to members of congress that if they were expecting any really important phone calls therks shou they should try using a different phone. if you tried to visit the websites for john boehner or michele bachmann after the president's call to action, you just got a server to busy message. >>> last year, in the fall, the president went and did it again. the president went on a multi-state barn storming campaign style tour to push for the passage of his jobs bill. again, he asked the american people to get involved in that fight directly. he asked the american people to talk to congress. >>> i want you to call. i want you to e-mail. i want you
if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. >> let your member of congress know. send that message said the president. the american people did. so many american people did that congressional websites and phone lines crashed after the president's speech. house phone circuits were so overwhelmed that an alert went out to members of congress that if they were...
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it actually on balance is deficit reducing. >> claudia, i'm curious, one of the things that's interesting, the single payer people and the conservative people, conservative opponents of aca and singer payer skeptics have similar critiques about cost control. you see mirror images, single payer people say no, single payer is the only way to get the cost control you want. i'm curious as someone who works on the ground in a hospital whether you think we're going to see the cost controls that materialize that are being projected? >> well, i'm very skeptical that the aca cost controls are going to be effective. i mean, you know, we could s say -- save $500 million if we did an expanded medicare for all, which would allow us to cover everyone including the people we're leaving out. the cost controls that we're talking -- the infrastructure isn't in place with the aca. >> you're saying on the delivery side. >> on the delivery side. >> and don, this is what you worked on, right. this is what you've done your life's work on, but also at cms is making sure the infrastructure is developed or in plac
it actually on balance is deficit reducing. >> claudia, i'm curious, one of the things that's interesting, the single payer people and the conservative people, conservative opponents of aca and singer payer skeptics have similar critiques about cost control. you see mirror images, single payer people say no, single payer is the only way to get the cost control you want. i'm curious as someone who works on the ground in a hospital whether you think we're going to see the cost controls that...
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but we heard no mention of congress dealing with our soaring debtor deficit spending, or where spending cuts of any type might come or how we are going to address the larger issue: we all know that tax hikes on the rich ain't going to get it down. progressive groups reportedly held a private meeting with senior obama administration white house officials. according to the "washington post" the groups were told not to worry about any entitlement reforms or big budget cuts. the so-called safety net programs according to them are not going to be touched and the progressive groups walked away feeling very happy. the report say the white house feels it does not need to compromise, period and is willing to let the big tax hike happen on everybody. the big tax hike is what everybody will face not just the rich or the middle class. they think they'll be in a better position to negotiate with the g.o.p. after that happens. chris stirewalt joins me, host of power play on foxnews.com. >> i was a little frightened, i thought something i, really bad was happening instead of the standard badness. megy
but we heard no mention of congress dealing with our soaring debtor deficit spending, or where spending cuts of any type might come or how we are going to address the larger issue: we all know that tax hikes on the rich ain't going to get it down. progressive groups reportedly held a private meeting with senior obama administration white house officials. according to the "washington post" the groups were told not to worry about any entitlement reforms or big budget cuts. the so-called...
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martha: reid says any agreement must have the wealthy to pay a little bit more to reduce the deficit. bill: what happens if they don't see a deal? 90% of americans will see a tax hike in 2013. and families that make between $40,000 and $65,000 will have to pay an extra $2,000 to washington, d.c. in taxes. martha: concerns over america's fiscal cliff have sent the markets lower in premarket trading. there is a look at where the dow is poised to open this morning. with the dow, the s & p and the nasdaq all trading lower. speaking of that, a new round of violent protests break out in egypt as police fired teargas into the crowds. here are some of those scenes. >> unbelievable. more than 100,000 people flooded into downtown cairo. this time they are protesting the current president martha maccallum and his power grab. they are disillusioned with what he has brought to their country. then you have this happening. police firing teargas. gypt's highest courts refusing to work in protest of morsi's actions. steve harrigan is streaming live from cairo. the protests looked like the unrest we sa
martha: reid says any agreement must have the wealthy to pay a little bit more to reduce the deficit. bill: what happens if they don't see a deal? 90% of americans will see a tax hike in 2013. and families that make between $40,000 and $65,000 will have to pay an extra $2,000 to washington, d.c. in taxes. martha: concerns over america's fiscal cliff have sent the markets lower in premarket trading. there is a look at where the dow is poised to open this morning. with the dow, the s & p and...
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he wanted to cut the deficit by $500 billion. the republicans went to him with clash 490 billion -- $490 billion in spending cuts. the democrats said we can match your 500 billion, but you have to raise taxes. and george h.w. bush raised taxes, the two came in, never got the spending cuts at all, and they hung that around his neck in 1992, and it cost him the election. megyn: how did it happen that your dad agreed to the tax hikes but didn't get the spending cuts? >> yeah. well, how that works out is the fact that the tax hikes went into place first, and the spending cuts just never showed up. at all. remember, the united states early on controlled by republicans and bob dole, the house of representatives by the democrats. democrats had to put those things toward, so they made the promise, and they didn't follow through with the promise as with h.w. bush in 1990. so as i warned the other day in a tweet, if republicans do not getting the spending cuts before the revenue, they may end up on the ash heap of history. megyn: there was
he wanted to cut the deficit by $500 billion. the republicans went to him with clash 490 billion -- $490 billion in spending cuts. the democrats said we can match your 500 billion, but you have to raise taxes. and george h.w. bush raised taxes, the two came in, never got the spending cuts at all, and they hung that around his neck in 1992, and it cost him the election. megyn: how did it happen that your dad agreed to the tax hikes but didn't get the spending cuts? >> yeah. well, how that...
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when somebody stops inevitably mattering about the fiscal cliff and the sky rocketing deficit, they don't know what they're talking about and they probably don't know it is wrong but you i am glad to know other people bring charts to thanksgiving dinner. >> we're preparing them so america can do that. awesome. thanks. >> have a great thanksgiving. >> you, too. you know what i am thankful for this thanksgiving? i am thankful elections, they have consequences. >> the time for bickering is over. the time for games has passed. now is the time to deliver on health care. >> have you read the bill? hell, no, you haven't. >> the supreme court has upheld president obama's health care law. >> the health care law. >> the signature achievement of barack obama's presidency. >> now they're trying to drag it into the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. >> we have a new message from congressman boehner. >> we can't afford it, we can't afford it and we can't afford to leave it in tact. that's not a new message. >> can you say it was done openly? >> that is not a new message. >> they have been defeated thr
when somebody stops inevitably mattering about the fiscal cliff and the sky rocketing deficit, they don't know what they're talking about and they probably don't know it is wrong but you i am glad to know other people bring charts to thanksgiving dinner. >> we're preparing them so america can do that. awesome. thanks. >> have a great thanksgiving. >> you, too. you know what i am thankful for this thanksgiving? i am thankful elections, they have consequences. >> the time...
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that is why we've had trillions of dollars in trade deficits with china. managers of the trade policy with china, democrats and republicans, i think are guilty of real political malpractice on a large scale. >> greta: what is the chinese viewpoint of what they're doing vis-a-vis north korea? >> almost any country, chinese goes back than our memory. because of the great war, many of the invasions of china have come by bypassing the great wall, along north korea. and... also, the japanese intend to conquer asiana started in korea. so china, korea is an extremely sensitive point. what i think the chinese would like best is an outcome would be a nonnuclear, peaceful, north korea. they would not want a unified korea because it would seem that the high-tech korea and yellow ribbon with modern weapons would resurrect his storeal cal threats in their minds. also for them, the korean war as the image they thought as a symbolic significance. they took on the united states when they were very weak and came out from their point of view, achieving their effectiveness.
that is why we've had trillions of dollars in trade deficits with china. managers of the trade policy with china, democrats and republicans, i think are guilty of real political malpractice on a large scale. >> greta: what is the chinese viewpoint of what they're doing vis-a-vis north korea? >> almost any country, chinese goes back than our memory. because of the great war, many of the invasions of china have come by bypassing the great wall, along north korea. and... also, the...
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mystery when 60% at least of the american people think that's an appropriate way to help balance the deficit. >> now, speaker boehner keeps telling us that he's put revenues on the table in form of closing loopholes, but democrats have not offered anything in terms of those earned entitlements. now, i know you said earlier that these are not connected issues, but are you and your colleagues willing to give any ground in terms of cuts, say, to medicare, medicaid, or social security or something? >> you know, this is somewhat laughable because, again, the republicans spent the entire campaign talking about how democrats slashed $716 billion from medicare and governor romney said i'm not going to take that money out of medicare. now they're demanding we take money out of the medicare. this is another example where their message keeps changing. it's not consistent and they're just relying on the same amnesia of the american people to let them get away with it. >> very briefly, sir. do we think there will be a deal or will we hit the cliff and go over it 1234. >> i'm getting more and more pessimi
mystery when 60% at least of the american people think that's an appropriate way to help balance the deficit. >> now, speaker boehner keeps telling us that he's put revenues on the table in form of closing loopholes, but democrats have not offered anything in terms of those earned entitlements. now, i know you said earlier that these are not connected issues, but are you and your colleagues willing to give any ground in terms of cuts, say, to medicare, medicaid, or social security or...
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>> i think i definitely think that if we get a big deal done here in terms of the budget deficit, i think we could have a very good economic growth next year. >> a lot of "ifs" though. if, if, if. to mandy's point, lope is not a strategy. if is not a strategy. >> that's right. i think now the president has picked geithner to negotiate with the republicans, with boehner. i do think there's good grounds for something to come out of this. i think the simpson-bowles framework i think gives a pretty credible framework that they can work off of. maybe they do some things a little bit differently but if they can get something done of that magnitude, it will be very big for business confidence and for the economy. >> i know our viewers, very smart bunch. they can be a little tough though. right? in their own way. they'll say stock market, it is only up because the federal reserve is priming the pulp. is that true? >> that's a big part of it. that money that the fed is buying these treasuries and now mortgages, that money needs to go somewhere. so it is working its way into risky assets, causing c
>> i think i definitely think that if we get a big deal done here in terms of the budget deficit, i think we could have a very good economic growth next year. >> a lot of "ifs" though. if, if, if. to mandy's point, lope is not a strategy. if is not a strategy. >> that's right. i think now the president has picked geithner to negotiate with the republicans, with boehner. i do think there's good grounds for something to come out of this. i think the simpson-bowles...